tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8356365023823603303.post7564078408871580419..comments2024-03-29T03:07:56.048+00:00Comments on THE NATURAL HAVEN: Protein Conditioners for hair: part 2 of 2Jchttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03983132094574128087noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8356365023823603303.post-48665959241518296172014-11-26T14:27:36.791+00:002014-11-26T14:27:36.791+00:00I need to try this ... but I wanted to finish the ...I need to try this ... but I wanted to finish the megatek I have first.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13088713234896278100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8356365023823603303.post-11041121864550572942014-11-26T14:25:45.985+00:002014-11-26T14:25:45.985+00:00Yeah I'd like to know about the megatek as wel...Yeah I'd like to know about the megatek as well since I have 2 bottles of it and was planning to use it as a protein treatment. I've read that it's a heavy protein in a lot of blog posts, but the Hydrolyzed keratin isn't one of the top ingredients I think it's like the 8th ingredient listed. I have heard they changed the formula and that Hydrolyzed keratin used to be the 2nd ingredient, but I'm not certain. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13088713234896278100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8356365023823603303.post-2408389878315400262014-11-15T01:06:46.506+00:002014-11-15T01:06:46.506+00:00I use Aphogee two step treatment when my hair need...I use Aphogee two step treatment when my hair needs a heavy protein treatment (especially if it is breaking). I follow the instructions, using heat until it becomes hard and rinse as instructed. I follow it up with a moisturising steam. This is the only treatment I have used which stops breakage after one use and makes the hair stronger. I am not sure why Anonymous of 13 December 2009, had such a problem. Maybe her hair did not need such a strong protein treatment or she did not follow it up with the right products. This treatment works every time I use it (which is not that often, maybe two or three times a year as needed).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8356365023823603303.post-71097186907155043832013-08-13T15:20:10.398+01:002013-08-13T15:20:10.398+01:00I love this post, so informative, .... just wonder...I love this post, so informative, .... just wondering if there is an order of potency for hydrolyzed proteins. Such as, keratin being the strongest, and silk being the least effective.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07700857986108235775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8356365023823603303.post-9414983634436128272013-01-21T01:32:50.670+00:002013-01-21T01:32:50.670+00:00Thank you so much for this blog! I'm starting ...Thank you so much for this blog! I'm starting to introduce protein conditioner so my regimen because I have fine,colored treated hair. The past few weeks I have seen less breakage but still it is a problem even after using Aphogee. My thought is to wait a few months before applying the Aphogee again and in the meantime keep using regular protein conditioner during every wash day. At least they will help the outer structure of my hair strands until my next protein treatment. Besides hot water and AVC rinses will protein conditioners in anyway help my hair absorb product more effectively? Product just sits ontop of my low porous hair. Thank you again for sharing your knowledge.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12085978596743702135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8356365023823603303.post-41389203167542269472012-11-12T21:45:45.772+00:002012-11-12T21:45:45.772+00:00Any hair that is easy to break or requires a lot o...Any hair that is easy to break or requires a lot of gentle treatment to handle is at risk of damage. Coconut oil does not take the place of proteins, its work is to help to keep moisture in hair and prevent expansion. Proteins mitigate damage to hair and so yes even naturals who do not use dye or heat can benefit from proteins to help patch flaws in the cuticle and increase moisture to the hairJchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03983132094574128087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8356365023823603303.post-19738991766542873112012-11-12T18:04:09.391+00:002012-11-12T18:04:09.391+00:00I realize this is a old post, however I haven'...I realize this is a old post, however I haven't seen the answer to this question "So, would protein treatemtens be recommended for natural haired women who already use penetrating oils like olive and coconut?" For a natural who does not use dye or heat would proteins still be necessary or should we eliminate them from our ingredient list/routines to avoid making the hair brittle/straw like?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8356365023823603303.post-35393616784373174102012-05-05T13:46:49.773+01:002012-05-05T13:46:49.773+01:00Naya - I'm not an expert but I believe that al...Naya - I'm not an expert but I believe that all proteins, whether large or small, are beneficial to hair... SAA's are helpful because their very small size allows them to penetrate through to the cortex, but on the negative side their small size means they are easily washed away.claud-uknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8356365023823603303.post-57097694481948741582012-02-17T03:55:27.476+00:002012-02-17T03:55:27.476+00:00I have a question JC. I have seen hydrolysed silk ...I have a question JC. I have seen hydrolysed silk proteins and hydrolysed amino acids. Would those amino acids still not be effective even though they are hydrolysed?Nayanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8356365023823603303.post-40051469487426597152011-12-02T23:01:36.128+00:002011-12-02T23:01:36.128+00:00Now I understand - Thank youNow I understand - Thank youKellynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8356365023823603303.post-1956043599131735462011-12-01T16:53:20.437+00:002011-12-01T16:53:20.437+00:00In order for the protein to stick to the outer sur...In order for the protein to stick to the outer surface and repair small cracks, chips or tears on te surface, they have to be hydrolysed. In order for them to penetrate into the cortex (and some do!) they also have to be hydrolysed even further.<br /><br />Proteins (unprocessed) are generally extremely large and while they will bind somewhat to the surface of hair, they will not be as specific and effective in find and sealing cracks like hydrolysed proteins would.Jchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03983132094574128087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8356365023823603303.post-12693486265439269502011-12-01T13:38:56.472+00:002011-12-01T13:38:56.472+00:00I guess my questions should be the only way to get...I guess my questions should be the only way to get protein to penetrate to the cortex is through hydrolysed proteins, which are mainly commerical products.Kellynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8356365023823603303.post-74282067643768874182011-12-01T13:32:24.989+00:002011-12-01T13:32:24.989+00:00Thanks JC
So I'm trying to get the true unders...Thanks JC<br />So I'm trying to get the true understanding of proteins that penetrate the hair shaft. <br /><br />So natural ingredients that contain protein only provide nutrients to the outer layer of hair, since they may too large for the penetration?Kellynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8356365023823603303.post-81828875935341936962011-12-01T10:43:48.646+00:002011-12-01T10:43:48.646+00:00No they are not Kelly. hydrolysed proteins have to...No they are not Kelly. hydrolysed proteins have to be processed (i.e enzymes used to break them down)Jchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03983132094574128087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8356365023823603303.post-60353276089062744152011-12-01T02:52:30.874+00:002011-12-01T02:52:30.874+00:00My hair is dyed and fine and I'm looking for a...My hair is dyed and fine and I'm looking for a protein treatment. I not interested in using alphogee because am afraid that it my be too strong. I'm looking to use more natural products like avocado, amla, coconut milk and yogart. Are these considered hydrolysed proteins. <br />KellyKellynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8356365023823603303.post-75952000500612810632011-11-02T16:45:40.745+00:002011-11-02T16:45:40.745+00:00Whoops! This article is 2 years old! I thought it ...Whoops! This article is 2 years old! I thought it was new! Maybe you've already answered the question since...Jo Somebodyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16970582395923561681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8356365023823603303.post-40241923255347511992011-11-02T16:44:38.267+00:002011-11-02T16:44:38.267+00:00Hi JC,
I notice you said amino acids are too small...Hi JC,<br />I notice you said amino acids are too small to be useful, but since there are so small, does that mean they could reach the cortex and help the hair retain moisture (rules of osmosis)?<br />Hope that makes sense!Jo Somebodyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16970582395923561681noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8356365023823603303.post-56425898555593381702011-09-04T05:51:56.393+01:002011-09-04T05:51:56.393+01:00JC is meringue powder hydrolyzed protein or just d...JC is meringue powder hydrolyzed protein or just dried egg whites?Wondering if I can add that to my conditioner, but I also read that whites have the opposite effect on hair as egg yolks..Oh and since the protein in egg r to karge of a molecules to bind to damaged hair why does hair get so hard after? Jus egg on egg idk.-PKAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8356365023823603303.post-39495224736170281762011-02-14T04:12:46.795+00:002011-02-14T04:12:46.795+00:00Being that I use to use Eqyss shampoo on my horse ...Being that I use to use Eqyss shampoo on my horse with great results (it's the same line as Mega Tek Rebuilder that Didi mentioned) I'm curious to hear your thoughts on Mega Tek's ingredients.<br /><br />Also...I LOVE coconut oil. I use to massage it into my scalp and hair before showering. This way I received its benefits without it making my extra-fine hair greasy or weighted down. However, being that it's a 4 out of 5 on the comedogenic scale, it gives me bad acne. I had to quit using it. :*(<br />Is there anything similar to coconut oil (something that holds proteins in) that I can try?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8356365023823603303.post-50122238257247120562010-10-06T13:53:48.774+01:002010-10-06T13:53:48.774+01:00references would help knotty - also don't see ...references would help knotty - also don't see the relevance of your comment to protein conditioners. <br /><br />I disagree outright with fragrance being a 'proven' carcinogen. The reason why fragrance is highlighted as a concern is that there really isn't a definition of fragrance therefore anything can be listed as fragrance. However there are plents of products which utilise real natural fragrance like esters from oranges or even actual lemon or lime. None of these are carcinogenicJchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03983132094574128087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8356365023823603303.post-11045604492443635132010-10-05T15:13:47.606+01:002010-10-05T15:13:47.606+01:00propylparaben, imidazolidinyl urea, fragrance
car...propylparaben, imidazolidinyl urea, fragrance<br /><br />carcinogens, provenKnottyAuthorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04498726239520056122noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8356365023823603303.post-7369224202294239672010-09-19T19:03:52.814+01:002010-09-19T19:03:52.814+01:00Deanna thanks for the compliments and good luck wi...Deanna thanks for the compliments and good luck with the aphogee. My only advice on aphogee is that it will set very hard. When rinsing it out, just let the water flow over until the hair can move again. <br /><br />Coconut oil with water is mix that quite a few people like. I don't see anything wrong with it unless your hair does not like coconut oil (some people get crunch hair).Jchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03983132094574128087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8356365023823603303.post-60437390384178319462010-09-19T14:12:37.937+01:002010-09-19T14:12:37.937+01:00Thank you so JC I learned so much to I went from r...Thank you so JC I learned so much to I went from reading your recent post on dry hair to humectante to oils to protein treatment LOLLL (i need to go back to studying i'm in nursing school!!). I'm going to try to do out the Aphogee Treatment i have been spraying my hair with a coconut oil/water mix(is this okay??) and then sealing with Elast QP's Mango Olive Butter I'm hoping teh proteirn treatment will help my hair. I joined one challenge (long hair academy LOL) on of the forums but they want you to oil your scalp...i was thinking hmmm no I shouldn't i remember reading your article on that on here a year ago. Thanks so much for this blog you're the best, DeannaDeannahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11857815584593971023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8356365023823603303.post-80137017991996358552010-09-13T21:22:55.332+01:002010-09-13T21:22:55.332+01:00great bloggreat blogAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8356365023823603303.post-84441024515572409962010-02-20T20:39:01.358+00:002010-02-20T20:39:01.358+00:00Holy Toledo, you lost some of your hair!!? The mor...Holy Toledo, you lost some of your hair!!? The more I read about this topic , the more I'm confused about protein treatments. Please, please, Jc if you could just tell us what products do have the best ingredients in them it would be so helpful. I'll be honest, I just barely squeaked by in biology in school. Please make it simple for those of us who are just looking for solutions with out all the complicated background. Until I have a clear understanding of a product and how it fits into a routine, I think I'll stay away from protein treatments for the time being.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com