tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8356365023823603303.post7207006733436165892..comments2024-03-29T03:07:56.048+00:00Comments on THE NATURAL HAVEN: Max Hydration Method: Can you get 4c hair to have clumped curls/ringlets?Jchttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03983132094574128087noreply@blogger.comBlogger56125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8356365023823603303.post-18736940592079476622015-01-25T02:05:44.470+00:002015-01-25T02:05:44.470+00:00THIS. THIS is what I've been saying in respons...THIS. THIS is what I've been saying in response to detractors who call MHM regimen followers "curl chasers", among other things. And anything you do regularly to your hair is a regimen, be it MHM, Curly Girl, LOC, etc.(even shampoo, no-poo, whatever cleansing method!) and when you STOP you stop seeing the desired results and benefits. If anything, the comparison to a chemical treatment would make sense if the curls stayed clumped and poppin WITHOUT sticking to the regimen.<br /> Anything worth having is worth working for including healthy, truly moisturized hair. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8356365023823603303.post-26258376608918343382015-01-01T04:20:35.185+00:002015-01-01T04:20:35.185+00:00It's the way we were created, yes...but this m...It's the way we were created, yes...but this method is not trying to 'hate' on creation, as you seem to believe. The reason your hair isn't completely defined, the reason it shrinks so much...is because it's DRY. This method, with its tedious long steps and all, seeks to MOISTURIZE the hair. So your hair is 'virgin' and 'natural'...but hers is too. Only difference? Yours is dry. I honestly think the baking soda or apple cider vinegar step is irrelevant, but maybe that's why you think that this is some chemical process. However, really it isn't. They just found a way to get extremely coily hair to look how it's SUPPOSED to look. Your hair is not supposed to be chronically dry, your hair is not supposed to have 99.9% shrinkage, you're not supposed to walk around looking like you have collar bone length hair when...really your hair is tail bone length. However, dryness brings extreme shrinkage (hair is supposed to shrink but damn, not that much) and virtually, no curl. There's nothing wrong with afros. There's absolutely nothing wrong with twist outs and braid outs, but to be honest...doing twist outs and braid outs is more akin to trying to make your hair look like someone else's than doing this method. With this method, your hair is not going to look like someone ELSE'S...it's going to look like your hair, what your hair is supposed to look like. By all means, accept the dryness and really cool shrinkage, but don't get jealous or feel left out when another sister has hydrated hair that barely sees knots.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8356365023823603303.post-10550842310123834172014-12-02T03:11:44.770+00:002014-12-02T03:11:44.770+00:00Can this be done on a 5 year old girl or not recom...Can this be done on a 5 year old girl or not recommended for kids?<br />NikkiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8356365023823603303.post-43068841203628212352014-10-31T16:48:07.913+00:002014-10-31T16:48:07.913+00:00I plan to try MHM. However, I do not understand w...I plan to try MHM. However, I do not understand whether all 5 steps (except the cherry lola) are to be repeated daily OR is it one step per day. I am usually leaving home in the morning and returning after 9 pm. So, I am trying to figure out when and how I could implement this method.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8356365023823603303.post-29289358781095845822014-10-27T17:32:52.984+00:002014-10-27T17:32:52.984+00:00Lol @cottony for stating that her dry hair acts li...Lol @cottony for stating that her dry hair acts like a fool and it now acts like a well behaved child now that it's hydrated. I'm with you too Jc, I have other things to occupy my time, which hair isn't a part of. I applaud inventors of hair techniques, but I wouldn't recommend this to a newbie, particularly someone who thinks Natural hair is a lot of work. I use baking soda and vinegar to clean tough grease, so I'll skip on those. I also would have to go scout those ingredients from various sources just to try them. I loose more hair on wash days, so I really can't try this method. And I like to keep my hair stretched since it reduces chances of tangles and knots. <br />Thanks for sharing your scientific views on these. But all the "I guess" and "probably"s from cottony shows that there are a lot of "ifs" and "buts" with this experiment. <br />I might be trying this method when I eventually color my hair.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10781183683258691645noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8356365023823603303.post-3556730362076731002014-10-11T02:05:25.304+01:002014-10-11T02:05:25.304+01:00I think what is amazing to me is the lack of love ...I think what is amazing to me is the lack of love for your own hair. I watched this video and I can see the results, but at the same time I'm thinking, "this woman completely dissed her own hair." I am a believer that we are fearfully and wonderfully made so those kind of comments are disheartening. Is it ok to be different? Do you feel less than if your hair does get completely defined? My hair is completely virgin, 4c and some of it clumps some does not (it's quite coily). I think my concern with MHM is that if you have to use this for the rest of your life, it just becomes like another chemical treatment. I like the concept of MHM, but get concerned with women who don't like their real "natural" hair and complain about it when the reality is they don't know how to embrace or manage it, instead try everything to make their hair look like someone else's. Do what you do, but just make sure you truly love you, just the way you were created.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8356365023823603303.post-58491170632288667242014-10-02T01:10:00.580+01:002014-10-02T01:10:00.580+01:00JC,
I also want to add that hair behaves normall...JC, <br /><br />I also want to add that hair behaves normally when it's moisture levels are in balance. All this shrinkage fighting gets in the way of optimal moisture levels. There are of course simple ways to achieve maximum hydration that don't include baking soda or ACV and I highly discourage their use in hair to my clients. I'll be looking forward to your actual study on the method. Appreciate you and all you bring to understanding the behavior of the hair from a scientific reference. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11664658370856638805noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8356365023823603303.post-62274418682841210382014-10-02T00:59:38.623+01:002014-10-02T00:59:38.623+01:00JC,
Knowing what I know about hair, ingredients ...JC, <br /><br />Knowing what I know about hair, ingredients and their relationship to each other I'm going to say you summed up why the method works for some when you stated that it's more about keeping the hairs moisture levels high than anything about the method itself. Paraphrasing here, of course. I have clients with all types of hair and my type 4s who dare to embrace their shrinkage and wash and go daily have the best hair of the bunch. This method is very low manipulation and high moisture, leaving no room for the hair to get dehydrated or damaged as quickly as all the styling, stretching and drying product use does. One must be ok with rocking their shrinkage as a style for this or alternative wash and go as I call it when shingling in gels on top of conditioners or stylers is involved. Though daily to every other day with light conditioners and oil does a fantastic job with this frequency and a amount of water touching the hair. Moisture monsters rule! Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11664658370856638805noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8356365023823603303.post-32604434223313729872014-09-28T21:19:50.290+01:002014-09-28T21:19:50.290+01:00The clumping from MHM is most likely from the clay...The clumping from MHM is most likely from the clay, at least that's what I'm experiencing. My hair is far from hydrated (it feels dry & course even when wet) but it's definitely clumping. However, I always get clumping from using clays so not that big of a deal. I also feel there is no Hydral Fatigue happening due to the fact that your hair is in a constant state of moisture instead of dry-wet-dry-wet so the hair shaft is not expanding and releasing. In theory, at least.<br /><br />I'm still trying to get the hydration part to work for me and I think I'm going to have to bust out my ph strips cause I don't think it's working for me. I feel that the ph, heat, cool vs warm rinses, & what's used in the mixes are important. Clay is alkaline and the conditioner should be acidic but you really can't wash out clay well with cold water. So the last conditioner step should be more acidic to make sure the cuticles close which I think is my problem.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8356365023823603303.post-63894922255915144222014-09-10T20:04:48.846+01:002014-09-10T20:04:48.846+01:00To Jc
Her hair is type 4. This is what the method...To Jc<br /><br />Her hair is type 4. This is what the method dies to type 4 hair. It causes it to ringlet. It's amazing. My hair was probably type 4 double z and now ringlets are springing up everywhereAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8356365023823603303.post-90574105778920601802014-09-02T08:47:08.742+01:002014-09-02T08:47:08.742+01:00That would be interesting!
I do the method and wou...That would be interesting!<br />I do the method and would love to see what hsppens at esch stage at a microscopic Christinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06230609368837283908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8356365023823603303.post-78174566412179067142014-08-31T15:32:03.702+01:002014-08-31T15:32:03.702+01:00Hi T, I highly encourage you to post your question...Hi T, I highly encourage you to post your question on the maximum hydration website or blog (black hair media). Both sites are active and questions over there are usually answered, often by Pinkecube herself. To the best of my knowledge many products are not recommended because they often contain ingredients that contain too much protein or drying ingredients. After hair achieves maximum hydration you can wash hair once a week. DanaBNatural does a shortened version ( clay, baking soda+conditioner, leave in and gel) and I think Aketafitgirl. However, I am not sure if this was done AFTER achieving maximum hydration or when their hair was almost entirely hydrated. Once hydrated you can wash hair once a week. However the two girls mentioned here say they prefer to do it more often (twice a week). According to pinkecube, the baking soda helps to lift the hair cuticles and remove build up. Again please go to the maximum hydration website for more information.Cottony Curlshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11413214534993310437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8356365023823603303.post-25892803325860407882014-08-31T15:13:40.469+01:002014-08-31T15:13:40.469+01:00When beginning the MHM for the first time, it is d...When beginning the MHM for the first time, it is done every day for 7 days. After that it is done every 3 days UNTIL maximum hydration is achieved (root to tip curl definition without product after rinsing out clay). Once maximum hydration is achieved, it is my understanding that it can then be done once a week.Cottony Curlshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11413214534993310437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8356365023823603303.post-91710922085202800402014-08-24T20:04:34.649+01:002014-08-24T20:04:34.649+01:00Also, is Maximum Hydrated hair really hair with hy...Also, is Maximum Hydrated hair really hair with hydral fatigue that is stretched out ( hence the clumping) but not broken?B2D2https://www.blogger.com/profile/03918586185659799193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8356365023823603303.post-20178141677201611762014-08-24T19:48:27.311+01:002014-08-24T19:48:27.311+01:00HI jc,
Now, I know that this isn't your job so...HI jc,<br />Now, I know that this isn't your job so really, if you don't want to...but can you do the mhm on a few strands of hair together with a microscopic shot after each process, just to see what exactly happens to the hair and if each stage is actually necessary?B2D2https://www.blogger.com/profile/03918586185659799193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8356365023823603303.post-12133008129924182162014-08-23T21:30:59.223+01:002014-08-23T21:30:59.223+01:00Hello my name is T: Is there a way to shorten this...Hello my name is T: Is there a way to shorten this process? Plus are there not products that help with porosity like the Roux shampoo and conditioner?Also is it the backing soda that is lifting the cuticles to get the moisture in?If so,then why cant us lazy girls put s? The thing about this method is its too much,you have to do this every 3 days or so,so after doing this every 3 days when can you STOP?! Does your hair reach maximum hydration to the point where you can quit?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8356365023823603303.post-82870356431708404342014-08-23T13:53:24.285+01:002014-08-23T13:53:24.285+01:00Is this MHM to be done everyday for the rest of li...Is this MHM to be done everyday for the rest of life to keep 4c/4z hair moisturised ?<br />Or is this once a month like a deep conditioniong treatment .lilkuntanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8356365023823603303.post-31777447649218741892014-08-21T09:32:57.994+01:002014-08-21T09:32:57.994+01:00Hi Anon,
Please don't give up as I am sure thi...Hi Anon,<br />Please don't give up as I am sure this method will work for you if done correctly, did you actually purchase the right ingredients or did you substitute with what you already had? If you don't use the right products then I don't think you will get the right result. For the clarifying stages, I suggest that you lower the amount of baking soda or ACV added to your conditioner mix. Also decrease the time that its applied to your hair. For example try mixing 2oz of conditioner + to 6oz of water + 1-2 tsp baking soda applied for 5-10mins. For a leave in conditioner, I mixed 8oz water with 1 tbsp of olive oil & honey with a few drops of Tea tree oil. For the ACV (Eden Organic with the Mother) 2oz ACV + 4 oz water applied for 5-10mins. For Gel, I make my own using flaxseeds 1/2 cup + 2-3 cups of water boiled until frothy (10mins) + few drops of mint or Tea tree oil. Please let me know how you get on, :) don't give up sister, if MHM can fix my dry head, I am sure it will do some good for yours, BlessDubaiDeenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8356365023823603303.post-81803651589010548402014-08-20T23:44:57.650+01:002014-08-20T23:44:57.650+01:00Yes, this works with different hair types. You wou...Yes, this works with different hair types. You would have to experiment to see whether the baking soda + conditioner vs ACV is better for your hair.Cottony Curlshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11413214534993310437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8356365023823603303.post-35021609991240262172014-08-20T23:39:05.222+01:002014-08-20T23:39:05.222+01:00Just go to step 1.Just go to step 1.Cottony Curlshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11413214534993310437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8356365023823603303.post-22366463477682595322014-08-19T23:46:51.407+01:002014-08-19T23:46:51.407+01:00I started the mhm Aug 3rd and had to stop Work was...I started the mhm Aug 3rd and had to stop Work was to hectic now I'm on Vacation should I start with the Cherry Lola again or just go to Step 1? Thanks Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8356365023823603303.post-50030920843619808762014-08-19T02:26:29.903+01:002014-08-19T02:26:29.903+01:00Hi,
This is very interesting. I have fine high p...Hi, <br /><br />This is very interesting. I have fine high porosity hair and have suffered from hydral fatigue in the past so I completely dismissed this at first because I am not sure my hair could handle that much water. However I have read JC's comment on how this method is different because your hair doesn't completely dry before it's wetted again. Hmmm could this be done on my hair? I use the Mizani Natural curl key guide and I'm a type 6 curllostNoWfoundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15617130717601540896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8356365023823603303.post-81754226076211586312014-08-17T09:01:58.990+01:002014-08-17T09:01:58.990+01:00Can this be used on my 17 month old whose hair is ...Can this be used on my 17 month old whose hair is more closer to 3a/3b/3c hair with fine strands?<br />Can I use this on my locked hair and loose new growth (3c/4a)?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8356365023823603303.post-677435786257292392014-08-11T16:41:34.147+01:002014-08-11T16:41:34.147+01:00thanks for responding :-)thanks for responding :-)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08575201577517923457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8356365023823603303.post-76935331922109176882014-08-10T01:50:20.727+01:002014-08-10T01:50:20.727+01:00@Anonymous, I am sorry to hear about the struggle ...@Anonymous, I am sorry to hear about the struggle you are experiencing. Do not give up. Baking soda and/or some of the other ingredients probably just are not the right fit for your skin and hair. <br /><br />I have spent a lot of time (with much frustration and triumph) learning about what my hair likes and dislikes (and skin too, because what you put in your hair affects your skin). So, based on what I know about myself, baking soda is honestly an ingredient that I am not even willing to try at the moment. <br /><br />I think hydration is very important to the health of your hair - but there are many different methods to try. I personally use a sulfate-free shampoo and try to wash 4-7 days a week. I use a light leave-in (sometimes just an oil). My hair does feel like it is changing. Your will change (for the better) once you find what your hair needs. Tikvahnoreply@blogger.com